What US touring gave them was continuity: 13 or 14 shows in a row. Back home, Matt says, it's a lot of weekend runs, one weekend and then the next, because Australia has six major cities. King Parrot also went out to the regional towns most bands skip, and he credits that with putting them on the map.

Playing Soundwave in Melbourne was the biggest crowd they had played to, and it set them up for the US run. Next were a show in Singapore and a festival in Indonesia, then another Australian tour.

On the business: CDs and vinyl sell well at the merch table, national distribution not so much. If you want to be in a band now, he says, you have to want the road.

If you're going to be a band these days, you got to really want to hit the road and tour.

Matt Young, King Parrot

What to take from it: Go where the other bands don't, and sell the record at the show.

Quotes are from the interview audio, trimmed for filler words only.